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		<title>By: Lothar</title>
		<link>http://www.oldmedianewtricks.com/create-newspaper-comment-board-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-882</link>
		<dc:creator>Lothar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Require everyone to give their full name, address, and an oath that they will receive a punch in the face from me in the middle of the town square every time they post something I don&#039;t like.</description>
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		<title>By: scott12345</title>
		<link>http://www.oldmedianewtricks.com/create-newspaper-comment-board-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>scott12345</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 06:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those individuals who are still unfamiliar with blogging, it is a home page on the Internet that takes a form of a personal journal. All the entries in the blog are compiled chronologically which contains comments and thoughts on everything; in other words, your point of view about different topic.&lt;br&gt;scott&lt;br&gt;&lt;a &lt;a href=&quot;http://href=%22http://www.fastrealestate.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;href=&quot;http://www.fastrealestate.net&lt;/a&gt; &quot;&gt;real estate&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those individuals who are still unfamiliar with blogging, it is a home page on the Internet that takes a form of a personal journal. All the entries in the blog are compiled chronologically which contains comments and thoughts on everything; in other words, your point of view about different topic.<br />scott<br />&lt;a <a href="http://href=%22http://www.fastrealestate.net" rel="nofollow">href=&#8221;http://www.fastrealestate.net</a> &#8220;&gt;real estate</p>
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		<title>By: solidboss</title>
		<link>http://www.oldmedianewtricks.com/create-newspaper-comment-board-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>solidboss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been looking for this type of information. I shall be pleased to become a regular visitor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been looking for this type of information. I shall be pleased to become a regular visitor</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.oldmedianewtricks.com/create-newspaper-comment-board-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AmyVernon said:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;And if you do moderate comments, then you become liable for what&#039;s in them - and if something slips through the cracks or someone posts a libel, the news organization is at risk for an indefensible lawsuit.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This belief is widespread, but unfounded - Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act offers immunity for online publishers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.citmedialaw.org/section-230&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.citmedialaw.org/section-230&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At our site, we require commentors to register, but they can choose their usernames - a step that&#039;s halfway between anonymous and requiring a &quot;true identity.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AmyVernon said:</p>
<p>&#8220;And if you do moderate comments, then you become liable for what&#39;s in them &#8211; and if something slips through the cracks or someone posts a libel, the news organization is at risk for an indefensible lawsuit.&#8221;</p>
<p>This belief is widespread, but unfounded &#8211; Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act offers immunity for online publishers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.citmedialaw.org/section-230" rel="nofollow">http://www.citmedialaw.org/section-230</a></p>
<p>At our site, we require commentors to register, but they can choose their usernames &#8211; a step that&#39;s halfway between anonymous and requiring a &#8220;true identity.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Quigley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mandy, I&#039;m with you. There are ways to get around an IP block, but it would be nice to at least make it *that* much more difficult for those trolls.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think anonymous comments on big news sites will be a thing of the past at some point. They suck up too much staff time, which is something we don&#039;t have the luxury of anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandy, I&#39;m with you. There are ways to get around an IP block, but it would be nice to at least make it *that* much more difficult for those trolls.</p>
<p>I think anonymous comments on big news sites will be a thing of the past at some point. They suck up too much staff time, which is something we don&#39;t have the luxury of anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandy Jenkins</title>
		<link>http://www.oldmedianewtricks.com/create-newspaper-comment-board-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-443</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandy Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like the Statesman, we use Pluck for our story comments at the Cincinnati Enquirer. We have a set of &quot;discussion guidelines&quot; that are pretty similar to that of other papers: &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.cincinnati.com/rules&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.cincinnati.com/rules&lt;/a&gt;. The only rule we don&#039;t have - mostly because it is so hard to define - is against trolling. Man, what community manager doesn&#039;t hate trolls?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We do the after-the-fact moderation Pluck was designed to maintain using abuse reports. We have a staff of editors, copyeditors, online producers and others who are assigned to look in on those abuse reports around the clock. Consistency is the real problem when it comes to doing this, but we try our best to make sure all moderators follow our discussion rules when it comes to removing comments. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d give my right arm for an ability to block by IP address, but so far we don&#039;t have that ability. We&#039;re looking into Facebook Connect for our site&#039;s interactions in the future - which I&#039;d like to think would calm things down a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the Statesman, we use Pluck for our story comments at the Cincinnati Enquirer. We have a set of &#8220;discussion guidelines&#8221; that are pretty similar to that of other papers: <a href="http://news.cincinnati.com/rules" rel="nofollow">http://news.cincinnati.com/rules</a>. The only rule we don&#39;t have &#8211; mostly because it is so hard to define &#8211; is against trolling. Man, what community manager doesn&#39;t hate trolls?</p>
<p>We do the after-the-fact moderation Pluck was designed to maintain using abuse reports. We have a staff of editors, copyeditors, online producers and others who are assigned to look in on those abuse reports around the clock. Consistency is the real problem when it comes to doing this, but we try our best to make sure all moderators follow our discussion rules when it comes to removing comments. </p>
<p>I&#39;d give my right arm for an ability to block by IP address, but so far we don&#39;t have that ability. We&#39;re looking into Facebook Connect for our site&#39;s interactions in the future &#8211; which I&#39;d like to think would calm things down a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Quigley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to know how much staff time that takes. Or does the LAT contract out commenting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d love to know how much staff time that takes. Or does the LAT contract out commenting?</p>
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		<title>By: AmyVernon</title>
		<link>http://www.oldmedianewtricks.com/create-newspaper-comment-board-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator>AmyVernon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Jason&#039;s point about anonymous comments is key. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sure, there are people who are going to lie about their identity. But the absolute bottom feeders are less likely to go to all that trouble. And if they have to have a verifiable e-mail address to sign up, that&#039;s even one step further.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s all very well and nice that the LA Times moderates all comments before they&#039;re posted but the fact is that most newspapers don&#039;t have the staff anymore to do that. And if you do moderate comments, then you become liable for what&#039;s in them - and if something slips through the cracks or someone posts a libel, the news organization is at risk for an indefensible lawsuit. I also wonder, are those comments moderated overnight, or does anyone posting a comment overnight have to wait until the morning to see it go up? Just curious.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anonymity allows people to be venal as they ever imagined.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Beyond that, the main issue lies on the side of the news organizations. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you&#039;re going to allow comments on stories, which at this point you simply must, then you need to have the resources to deal with complaints about them. You have to have at least a couple of people around the clock who can delete comments, block users, etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And the reporters and editors simply MUST understand that they have to get involved, too. If someone&#039;s being attacked, they need to bring that to the attention of the appropriate editor, rather than just complaining about it. And if a reader is seeking help understanding something, and the reporter/editor knows the answer, freakin&#039; answer it. But politely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Jason&#39;s point about anonymous comments is key. </p>
<p>Sure, there are people who are going to lie about their identity. But the absolute bottom feeders are less likely to go to all that trouble. And if they have to have a verifiable e-mail address to sign up, that&#39;s even one step further.</p>
<p>It&#39;s all very well and nice that the LA Times moderates all comments before they&#39;re posted but the fact is that most newspapers don&#39;t have the staff anymore to do that. And if you do moderate comments, then you become liable for what&#39;s in them &#8211; and if something slips through the cracks or someone posts a libel, the news organization is at risk for an indefensible lawsuit. I also wonder, are those comments moderated overnight, or does anyone posting a comment overnight have to wait until the morning to see it go up? Just curious.</p>
<p>Anonymity allows people to be venal as they ever imagined.</p>
<p>Beyond that, the main issue lies on the side of the news organizations. </p>
<p>If you&#39;re going to allow comments on stories, which at this point you simply must, then you need to have the resources to deal with complaints about them. You have to have at least a couple of people around the clock who can delete comments, block users, etc.</p>
<p>And the reporters and editors simply MUST understand that they have to get involved, too. If someone&#39;s being attacked, they need to bring that to the attention of the appropriate editor, rather than just complaining about it. And if a reader is seeking help understanding something, and the reporter/editor knows the answer, freakin&#39; answer it. But politely.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Snider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Snider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those blog sites also don&#039;t have millions of unique visitors per month and thousands of posts. I love the idea of taking away anonymous comments. Just not sure how you do it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The truth is that people see us as a giant megaphone that they get to take hold of. So they abuse that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;See also: Twitter and Skittles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those blog sites also don&#39;t have millions of unique visitors per month and thousands of posts. I love the idea of taking away anonymous comments. Just not sure how you do it.</p>
<p>The truth is that people see us as a giant megaphone that they get to take hold of. So they abuse that.</p>
<p>See also: Twitter and Skittles</p>
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		<title>By: JasonFalls</title>
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		<dc:creator>JasonFalls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t. But look at the comments sections of most blogs that require name, email address and similar information. You don&#039;t have the automatic sink into the pit of mindless insults and let&#039;s see how many curse words I can slip through the cracks. Hold people accountable and they will be, for the most part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#39;t. But look at the comments sections of most blogs that require name, email address and similar information. You don&#39;t have the automatic sink into the pit of mindless insults and let&#39;s see how many curse words I can slip through the cracks. Hold people accountable and they will be, for the most part.</p>
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